Dave Keane talks about Paradisium, 2022

Last time Suz and Dave Keane talked, he and his crew were making The Folly in 2019 and Dave was lead builder of Temple, 2018.  Most recently, his crew is ready for their next big-art build called Paradisium, aka the Folly Forest.  We hear from crew member Paul Franke.  With 20-26 iconic trees making up a forest at Black Rock City in 2022, it’s meant to lose us in the art as we find all nooks and crannies and climb some of the trees in the forest.  The buzz about!  Learn about where it’s built, what is needed and how to help.  Even if you are not going to Burning Man this year, there’s plenty of fun volunteering for this art build currently in Oakland, California. The lovely Veronica, Folly Builders Project Manager, popped in at the end and introduced herself.  

Links associated to this podcast:

The Folly Builders website with info on how to donate and volunteer

Folly Builders Facebook page

Dave Keane talking about The Folly  at a Burning Man symposium in 2019

The Folly Build on Into The Fire podcast posted in 2019

Intro music by Duckman on Soundcloud

Photos taken by Dave Keane

Into The Fire and Burner Podcast are  not affiliated with the Burning Man Organization.  It’s just a podcast. 

Burner Podcast · Into The Fire: Dave Keane talks about Paradisium, 2022

Everywhen Project, 2022

What happens when a collection of Black Rock Juplaya camps decide to fund art by getting permits and selling tickets?  

Meet the board of Everywhen Project, 2022 is working towards a week-long event at Black Rock Desert, 2022.  With over 2.5K members of their FB group, interest is growing and they are just getting started.  The board and the event grew out of camps regularly attending Juplaya at Black Rock Desert in Nevada.  With a passion for art, they developed a non-profit and a plan to obtain a permit for a ticketed event where a lot of the proceeds go to fund artists and their projects.  What is it like to get a larger event with permits, infrastructure, environmental stewardship and other important parts of a large, ticketed event.   Learn about how they are funding as much art as possible. 


Burner Podcast · Into The Fire: Everywhen Project, 2022

Links associated to the podcast:

Official website: 


Find their Facebook Group here


Graphic arts by Mike Parisi

Intro music from Duckman found on Soundcloud

Temple Builders Guild, 2022

Tree Jay Lee talks about the new Temple Builders Guild

Meet Tree Jay Lee from The Temple Builders Guild.  It’s a new group of temple builders who got together and figured out a way to handle temple build tools and to keep a collection of tools for the next temple build.  This involves transportation and even Airstream made into a kitchen that is ready to deploy meals to a large build crew for years to come.  It’s the start of what is infrastructure that is passed down from year to year.  Their mission is to make temple builds as well as  municipal, community art projects,  easier for the artist(s) and teams who build them by equipping them with the necessary equipment while reducing waste and increasing efficiency. If they can do it, so can your team.  Learn from them and save your collected legacy for the next crew!  

Links associated to the podcast:

Temple Builders Guild website

Photograph of Tree Jay Lee by Mathew Gilbuena

Intro music from Duckman found on Soundcloud

Tree Jay Lee on Playa

2018 Podcast: Meet Miss McCrafty!

My apologies! I recently was looking for this podcast on my website only to discover that it ended up being published on the net at all the usual places but not included as a post on my podcast website when it was published in June of 2018. Well, Ace Maker Space is still alive and is going well! I don’t want anyone to miss it so here it is, just a little bit late. And there is much to learn from our conversation. Again, my bad, Rachel.

Intro: Meet Ms. McCrafty aka Crafty aka Rachel Sadd! She talks to us about Ace Monster Toys makerspace, a non profit space dedicated towards education, hacking, and maker culture. We burners love to make things. Rachel shares her techniques on how to build community space within a makerspace and more recently with her work at Maker Faire, Bay Area, 2018 as their Week of Learning programming lead. Most of her great ideas can be transferable to burner communities. If you have a build crew or want to put on workshops for your area, listen and learn. She’s great!

Links associated to this podcast www.acemonstertoys.org wwwthecraftyavenger.com 

Photograph by Rachel Sadd Intro music by  DINK! Found on Alkaline Podcast, episode number A037.

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Caveat Magister Talks about Turning Your Life Into Art, Lessons in Psychomagic from the San Francisco Underground

Super Suz talks with Caveat Magister, Burning Man’s philosopher laureate. He’s the author of The Scene That Became Cities: what Burning Man philosophy can teach us about building better communities, and Turn Your Life Into Art: lessons in Psychomagic from the San Francisco Underground. His newest book is a synthesis of the San Francisco underground art scene and explains how they create highly personal and potentially transformative, designed experiences for participants. Corporations are trying to do this too with marketing and branding, however, Caveat explains why it’s rag-tag artists who have the most potential for psychomagic.   

Links associated to the podcast:

Burning Man’s webpage for the Philosophical Center

My favorite video on Caveat’s Youtube Channel

Photograph of Caveat by Tex Allen

Book cover image: “Connections” by Oxana Belka, 2019 with the photo by  Ales Prikryl aka DustToAshes

Intro music from Duckman found on Soundcloud

Renegade Burn, 2021:  All About the Art Car

Renegade Burn, 2021 – All About the Art Car

Some have said that 2021, besides being a virtual burn year, was all about the art cars.  That’s debatable, I know.  Instead of debating, we hear from two art car owners who called in to one of my Tuesday night shows on Shouting Fire online radio.  We talked about their experience at the Renegade Burn with their art cars.  This recording was made on August 28th, 2021.  I played some recorded mutant vehicle DJ sets, then we hear from Scotty, the  owner of the  AntiDysentery Art Car.  I played some more music and then we hear from Dustin, the owner of Shelly the Crab Art Car.  Both talk about their cars and what it was like to drive it around the playa in 2021 during the Black Rock Desert Renegade Burn.  

Links Associated to this Podcast

Shelly the Crab Art Car


Anti Dysentery Art Car


Burning Man Intellectual Property article

Intro Music by Duckman found on Souncloud

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Meet Sunshine Daydream of Playatech

Super Suz spoke with Sunshine Daydream in the spring of 2021.  He’s the Chief Radical Instigator of Playatech. He’s one of the most prolific artists in Black Rock City that nobody knows about.  He created Playatech in 2005 to spoof Decommodification, and it’s been used all these years in thousands of camps.  Learn how you and your campmates can turn plywood into Playatech in any garage or backyard.  It’s easy to fabricate, easy to pack, easy to assemble, and perfect for any playa needs from DJ booths to bike parking. This is a great summer to get rid of skanky, bulky playa couches and update your camp and village infrastructure! 

Photo by Glimmer

Links associated to the podcast:



Photographs by Glimmer

Intro Music by Duckman

Talking Fire with Dave X

Super Suz spoke with Dave X, Fire Art Safety Team Manager at Burning Man Project, to find out what are some of the things Burners need to be aware of when burning an effigy.  Many burners are gathering together this summer and this is the podcast that will help burners know about fire safety, fire awareness and other important things to think about and know when using fire to burn.  

Links associated to the podcast:

Article: Creating Dangerous Art Safely

Article: Interview with Dave X in 2020 by Kirsten Weisenburger

Article:  2016 Dave X  about the development of his department

Photograph of Dave X  by John Curley

Intro music from Alkaline Podcast, Episode A005 featuring Makii.  Find it on the Burner Podcast Soundcloud Channel. 

Tex Allen and NFT’s for Burners

Super Suz spoke with Tex Allen back in 2019 and he’s back. This time, his new project is his TTITD website for NFT’s that features honoraria artists and helps them fund new projects and earn income for their existing art. “Patronage IS Participation!” is Tex’s new mantra. A portion of the NFT purchases will go towards a donation to Burning Man Project as well.  This is an independent website and group of artists who’ve stepped up and taken leadership in the new digital artspace.  Four months of work comes together soon and those who are curious will get to see what becomes of burner NFT’s when TTITD launches in late June, 2021.

Links associated to the podcast:

The NFT website

Photograph by Cat Foshee.  

Intro music from Alkaline Podcast, Episode 18 featuring Laser Rot [Shangri-Lawless].  Find it on the Burner Podcast Soundcloud Channel.  

https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/1064688979&color=%234d314b&auto_play=true&hide_related=true&show_comments=false&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=false Burner Podcast · Into The Fire: Tex Allen and NFT’s for Burners

Personal Space At BRC

 7-year burner, Matthew Shapard, aka Shap, is a San Diego based burner who has created several wearable performance art pieces to bring out to Black Rock City as well as his local Regional.   His camp “Yes, And” hosts performance space and serves cheesy treats at San Diego’s regional YOUtopia.  His recent project, Personal Space, is something that is very relevant for us today with our six feet or more perimeter space that each of us is trying to live with every day.  We talk about what it was like for Shap to keep a personal space at Burning Man, which was Shap not giving consent for anyone to enter his circle of personal space throughout the whole time he wears the ring.  What was that like? Shap also reminds us that we don’t have to “go big” to participate by bringing art to Burning Man and the regionals.  Lastly, Shap advocates  how we can help out San Diego Collaborative Arts which is their local Project 501(c)3.  

Photography by Scott Ketcham 

Intro music is by Mikey High Jinks [Movement of Jah People] on Alkaline Podcast, episode A006

Links Associated to this Podcast:

San Diego Collaborative Arts:  www.Sdcap.org

Burning Man Calendar:  https://marketplace.burningman.org/